Phototherapy Patch Q & A December 6, 2021


Dr. Dennis Lobstein and Dr. Karen Kan share phototherapy patch protocols live on the Light Warrior Radio Podcast. They will continue to answer questions on-air during the first Monday of each month starting at 12 noon Eastern in order to help customers, distributors, and users from around the world get the most out of their phototherapy patches.

Over the last several years, we’ve spoken about topics ranging from spirituality to pain, to detoxification, and addressed almost every organ in the entire body. You can find the archives by searching for the topic you are interested in. The content is all free and sharable.

Folks that call in live, or post their question in the chat will be the first priority in our Q & A monthly radio show sessions. After that, I’ll take questions from the LW Phototherapy Patch Training Team Facebook Page, under the discussion tab.

You can listen to all the archives of Ask the Doctors phototherapy podcasts on Dr. Karen’s Podsite Page.

Contact Dr. Dennis for a personal consult, message him on Facebook here.

Listen to this month’s Q & A to learn more about acupuncture points and patching protocols to help with symptoms of dizziness, nausea, swollen blood vessels, lymph congestion, fatigue, hormonal challenges, and more!

Q & A

Spike proteins can fracture DNA. The X39 and Aeon patches have the ability to repair DNA. If there are DNA strand breaks we may be able to support self-repair. Glutathione also chelates graphene oxide and we’re not sure if it can flush out graphene hydroxide as we know glutathione is an antioxidant that is negatively charged and can attach to positively charged toxins. N-Acetyl-cysteine, NAC, is a raw ingredient/nutrient that is the building blocks of making glutathione. Dr. Dennis recommends this supplement for those who feel they need support nutritionally to make glutathione (especially if they don’t eat meat).


If I got an inoculation and would like to mitigate or minimize any potential adverse reactions. What patching protocols and acupuncture points would help support natural detoxification and help self-healing? 

  • Dr. Dennis: Spleen energy, if low, will allow blood to jump out of the vessels, therefore patching Spleen 6, a powerful 3-Yin channel point, would be helpful. SP6C patch on the left and Aeon patch on the right. Alternatively, you can have SP6C or Tan patch on the left spleen 6 and an Aeon or White patch on the right stomach 36. This is called a yin/yang pair. The White and tan patches, if you choose to use them instead, can be either IceWave or Energy Enhancer patches. This yin/yang pair in acupuncture is analogous to using Ginseng as a herb and adaptogen. It can help with balance.
  • You can support the detoxification of the body by doing the 5 Elements rotation by using SP6C on the left, and Aeon on the right (or use the Energy Enhancers in the original protocol)
  • Use both X39 and X49 each day to support the self-repair of the body. You can use them anywhere and whether it is day/night.


Help…hardly have any hair left! No jab, had the C-D, recovered just fine, only residual is massive hair loss. it's slowing down, using X49 on Stomach 36, energy enhancers on Kidney 3. Any other ideas?

  • Dr. Dennis: Head hair growth depends on Kidney Qi. Tonify kidney Qi using Energy Enhancer patches on Kidney 3 or on Bladder 23 (on the back at L2) 
  • OR Put any Y-Age patch or X 39 patch on Governing Vessel 4, the Life Gate, just below the L2 vertebrae at the back (or both)
  • Place X49 below the belly button in conception vessel 6, or ideally covering the belly button in conception vessel 8, on the front of the body.

Instead of moxibustion in Traditional Chinese Medicine, you can use phototherapy patches. Of course, using moxa can improve the integrity of the acupuncture points and thus help patches work even better, theoretically.


I’ve been getting such good information today! After a complete blockage of the L.A.D (left anterior descending), what is a heart protocol for a friend of mine? She’s using IceWave and X39 in the heart protocol. She is raving with so much more energy. How would you add X49? Is there a reference chart?

  • Dr. Dennis: Reference chart: and look for the tab for acupuncture points. There is an app for acupuncture points as well, which you can find on your phone.
  • To support the heart, now that we have X49:
    • Support Healthy Heart Rhythm and the whole heart: Reinforce the biocoherence by using the conception vessel 17 and Spleen 21 which goes in the direction of the vector of depolarization from the sino-atrial node to the apex of the heart. 
      • You would put IceWave, White patch on Conception Vessel 17 and Tan patch on left Spleen 21. Alternatively, put X39 on the midline and X49 on SP21 or vice versa. Try it out and see which one feels the best.
      • You can also use Energy Enhancer on Pericardium 6 alternating with Stomach 36 (or Stomach 40 to dissipate phlegm which in western medicine is analogous to artery fat blockages) to support the heart or use the 5 elements rotation to balance all the meridians. 
    • Alternatively, you can put an Aeon on Conception Vessel 17 and a Carnosine on left Spleen 21.
    • Alternatively, you can put Carnosine on Conception vessel 17 and X49 on right Triple Burner 5 (outer frontier gate) and X39 on left pericardium 6 (inner frontier gate), sort of like a yin/yang pair
    • Alternatively, you can use Heart 1 in the armpit which is the angel lifting point and opens up the whole chest, using Energy Enhancer on both sides.


Been on the patches for 18 months. Has four bulging discs and spinal stenosis, bone spurs, and a pinched nerve that goes down to the third finger of the left hand. It wakes her up at night while lying down or sitting at the desk. She would like to know how to get rid of the symptoms. 

  • Dr. Karen – the fascia can be restricted and she should learn how to release the restriction. That the bone spurs could be the body’s way of keeping her spine more stable. Consider patching the scalene muscles at the level of the neck to release the pressure on the brachial plexus.
  • Dr. Dennis – being more alkaline can be helpful. Eat less acidic-forming foods such as processed foods. Eat more whole foods, bone broth.
  • Use Energy Enhancer patches in the 5 elements to help you to become more alkaline. 
  • To decrease the pain, put the IceWave patches on Triple Burner 10 right behind the elbow, white on right, tan on left. That opens up a whole pathway through the neck and shoulders. That creates an arc of energy through the neck region.
  • To decrease pain in the left 2nd and 3rd finger, if the above patching doesn’t work, you can wrap the IceWave white and tan around the finger (forming a ring). Alternatively, you can bracket the entire pericardium meridian starting with a white patch on the middle finger, and place the tan patch at the beginning of the meridian near the pectoralis major muscle just opposite of Lung 3 (which you can find by putting your nose into your armpit). Also patching points to increase the flow of chest Qi helps including the Conception vessel 17. 
  • Alternatively, Icewave bracketing the neck. One on governing vessel 16 (white) and another on governing vessel 14 (tan). Right stomach 40 (Aeon right and Carnosine on left) to open orifices (let the nerve be free in the neck)


Pain in the heel and inner aspect of the foot below ankle Patching protocol, please

  • If it is an acute injury, then put the tan IceWave on the point of maximum pain, and use the Clock protocol (in the IceWave brochure) with the white patch.
  • If it is chronic pain, you’d actually use the white on the pain and then move the tan around for pain relief.
  • Dr. Karen’s Tip: Add brain balancing protocol – add an Aeon to the head as per her protocol. The Triple Burner 17 points behind the ear is a good one.
  • Dr. Dennis Tip: bracketing the IceWave around the pain until it is gone, then add the carnosine in the middle where the pain is, for repairing the area. You can stack carnosine and X39 and (possibly X49 together). Sovereign Copper may be helpful for those who feel they might be low in copper in their diets: (


She had cranial nerves 9, 10, 11 surgically taken out. Symptoms: heart arrhythmia, the lower esophageal sphincter is open, breathing issues due to heart arrhythmia. Some of the paralysis symptoms went away since starting patches just using the brochure points (X39 and Aeon) and a big positive change adding the X49. 

  • Start with the Aeon brain balancing protocol (use all the points) after the first 2 weeks, then do the same protocol with X39 for two weeks, then X49 for two weeks, then carnosine for two weeks. Then start with Aeon again and continue doing the rotations.
  • Use Energy or IceWave patches on the five elements of yin/yang pair rotation. 
  • Kidney 9 “resets” the nervous system. Marrow = nervous system in Chinese Medicine. The kidney 9 points can reset the kidney Qi (reprograms imbalances in your overall constitution). It’s like degaussing the “emf” of the old cathode-ray monitors. So use X39 on the left and X49 on the right kidney 9.


He is new to the products and company. He has a son and himself suffers from sleep anxiety. Pills, medications, etc., don't seem to work. They don’t want to do the pill route anymore. 

  • Aeon brain balancing protocol – – rotate through all the points, one each night, for two weeks to clear neurological blockages, then afterwards, you can use them during the day
  • Silent Nights patches – use each of the points, rotating through each, every night. Hydrate well during the day with a pinch of Himalayan salt. Pericardium 6 or Spleen 6 work well for Silent Nights. Other points are An Mian which is behind the right ear on the skull (mastoid bone) or the right  Shi Mian point, on the centre of the bottom of the heel and that energy that goes right to the brain. Glutathione patches may be helpful for detoxifying old medications from the body.
  • Good sleep hygiene and EMF hygiene are important. is the LW Phototherapy Support Group. can join for extra help.


X49 question. Her husband has a pacemaker. They tried the Spleen 21 protocol and pericardium 6 and had to pull it off quickly because it didn’t feel good. He was so hoping he would wear that. He gets really faint, his heartbeat goes really irregular. It’s like when the pacemaker is turned off. 20 minutes is the longest they could tolerate it. It took a while to get the regularity back. When he has more than 3 different patches, he does worse. They eat healthily, do herbs, and hydrate well. They enjoy natural medicine. They are taking liquid minerals

  • Dr. Karen – Consider brain balancing protocol with an additional Aeon patch on the conception vessel 8 in case he goes into reverse polarity. Try that for a few days, and then add X39 or X49 alone for short periods of time to see how that is tolerated. That could be 5 minutes at a time.
  • Dr. Dennis – Try Energy Enhancers on Kidney 9 to reset polarity as well since he tolerates that patch well
  • Dr. Karen discussed how folks in their 70’s and 80’s can take longer to notice a difference with the patches when there are decades-long imbalances present, and that the stem cells will repair the body parts in the order that is the most important. Patience is required although many people get results immediately.

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